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Necessity is the mother of invention--that's what we're up against. A previous American generation had the scare of Sputnik. The students we teach are just not driven, hungry, or scared (compared to Indian and Chinese competition). Global students have the need to be great...we have to get our kids to buy into the importance of daring to be great. Will skilled use of tech apps help us do this? More engaging curric delivery perhaps? --John Sommer
Our educational system is a product of our political philosophy (choose and make your own future), so to change the educational system, we'd need a shift in philosophy. We are seeking to meet the demands of our consumers, when the consumers demand change, we change. But who should drive the change? Shouldn't educators?
Excellent video with some great points and an honest look at the future. What we are seeing in the world is not only a shift in economics but a shift in cultural importance. The economic issues that the US is facing today are a direct result of the issues we have seen in the education system over the past 2-3 decades. How long with the world look to the US as the land of opportunity? Could there be a shift to another part of the world? Can we (the US) conceive that such a shift could occur? How would we react? Would we even care? These are questions that the younger generation will have to address. I hope that we (educators) are preparing them to address these issues.
Will Richardson talked about needing a change in educational philosophy. I think this video definitely shows how important that is. When I was in high school and college, the Chinese and Japanese educational philosophies were used as examples a lot. India wasn't mentioned much but you can see how things have changed in the last two decades.
Our society dictates our educational experience. The American students (in a sense) are very spoiled. They are not driven as students from other countries because of hunger or poverty. Americans have many more things to focus on besides studies. Isn't it better to be a well rounded person?
There is always need for improvement in every facet of life, especially education. I do feel we need to increase our attention to the way we deliver our instruction and and what we develop as our curriculim... but at what costs? I think the American educational system is more productive in many aspects for the whole person. Examples would be extra-curricular activities, Athletics, theatre, music, etc. This develops the individual to be successful in all phases of life rather than focusing on one area of study. The ability to communicate effectively, being a leader, developing strong interpersonal skills is a major factor in success. Technology is changing this world daily but I still feel we will be at the forefront more than the video let us believe.
The video was extremely thought provoking. It raises so many issues for discussion! I found myself adjusting my thinking and my feelings throughout the video. We all have so much to learn from one another... there's no one "right" way; and yet,how wonderful to examine a completely different view point to help adjust our own thinking. There's soooo much to learn.
The video was definitely good food for thought. The information presented wasn’t entirely new to me. However, each time I hear this I struggle with which “side” to favor. I admire the ambition and drive of the students from India and China who were previewed in the video. Yet, I’m not entirely sure that those students are happy and doing all that they enjoy. It’s all about balance……. What that balance is, I’m not sure……I think it’s different for each individual. I would like to see students in the US hold a greater emphasizes on the importance of schooling.
I am amazed at the amount of time spent on studying in China and India. I knew it was more than the US, but the numbers shown were greater than I expected. It also made me reflect on the amount of extra-curricular activities we have in the US and the time given to them. It makes me think of the amount of activities I have my own children in and how they have know idea how others live outside of their own little box. Good stuff to reflect on within the classroom and within my own home. Thanks for the time to watch.
I found myself having mixed feelings during this video. I was disappointed in the American students casual attitude towards their education. However, I also see the positive in exposing our children to many activities and allowing them to "pave their own way". (Sarah)
While most of us "know" a lot of this information (statistically - and even some of those were surprising), it really makes it more powerful viewing it in this context. While I do think the United States needs to re-evaluate and re-vamp it's educational system, there also needs to be a shift in attitudes from both parents and students(without it, it wouldn't be truly effective). I also believe that "copying" another country's system is not the answer. As not only an educator, but also a parent, I'm thinking there needs to be a middle ground (between what we are currently doing to prepare our students and what India or China are doing). This is a thought provoking video that educators and parents alike should view.
I think John said it perfectly! Although, I would add--daring to be great also means being willing to make mistakes. Are students willing to try something new if it means they might not get it right?
I agree with John. Our parents and grandparents used education as a tool to flee from poverty and "better themselves". Many of our students are already living a life filled with material possessions and are looking for meaningful, fulfilling professions.
I think it is pretty obvious that in many countries "high school" is more demanding than in the U.S. I also know that high school here serves a much broader population of students. In order to attend a college prep or academic "high school" in many countries, you have to be accepted or get in by your grades or performance. There are a number of alternatives for those who don't pursue the academic route, with emphases on different trades, etc. Students in these academic "high schools" are obviously more focused and driven. I wonder about the mental health of the students who are pushed to succeed and not let their families down. The video was really focused on Math and Engineering, and I was curious about other fields of study and how Americans compare in those fields. I think that at the high school level, the U.S. is definitely behind, but I think that at the college level, especially at the Masters and Doctoral level, that the U.S. is not so behind. Many foreign students attend U.S. colleges for advanced degrees.
I thought this was interesting - the American kids were actually less "vapid" than I thought they might come across and the kids from Indian and China still sounded like real kids with personalities even though it was obvious that their priorities were different from the US students. This made the presentation easier to watch than I thought it would be.
I agree with the points made in the video. The US is losing ground on the world stage and the future looks like more of the same at an ever increasing rate. I'm not sure what it will take to cause forces to align and a change to happen in our education system. The larger problem might be attitudes and feelings about traditions currently in place.
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Necessity is the mother of invention--that's what we're up against. A previous American generation had the scare of Sputnik. The students we teach are just not driven, hungry, or scared (compared to Indian and Chinese competition). Global students have the need to be great...we have to get our kids to buy into the importance of daring to be great. Will skilled use of tech apps help us do this? More engaging curric delivery perhaps?
--John Sommer
Our educational system is a product of our political philosophy (choose and make your own future), so to change the educational system, we'd need a shift in philosophy. We are seeking to meet the demands of our consumers, when the consumers demand change, we change. But who should drive the change? Shouldn't educators?
Excellent video with some great points and an honest look at the future. What we are seeing in the world is not only a shift in economics but a shift in cultural importance. The economic issues that the US is facing today are a direct result of the issues we have seen in the education system over the past 2-3 decades. How long with the world look to the US as the land of opportunity? Could there be a shift to another part of the world? Can we (the US) conceive that such a shift could occur? How would we react? Would we even care? These are questions that the younger generation will have to address. I hope that we (educators) are preparing them to address these issues.
Will Richardson talked about needing a change in educational philosophy. I think this video definitely shows how important that is. When I was in high school and college, the Chinese and Japanese educational philosophies were used as examples a lot. India wasn't mentioned much but you can see how things have changed in the last two decades.
Our society dictates our educational experience. The American students (in a sense) are very spoiled. They are not driven as students from other countries because of hunger or poverty. Americans have many more things to focus on besides studies. Isn't it better to be a well rounded person?
There is always need for improvement in every facet of life, especially education. I do feel we need to increase our attention to the way we deliver our instruction and and what we develop as our curriculim... but at what costs? I think the American educational system is more productive in many aspects for the whole person. Examples would be extra-curricular activities, Athletics, theatre, music, etc. This develops the individual to be successful in all phases of life rather than focusing on one area of study. The ability to communicate effectively, being a leader, developing strong interpersonal skills is a major factor in success. Technology is changing this world daily but I still feel we will be at the forefront more than the video let us believe.
The video was extremely thought provoking. It raises so many issues for discussion! I found myself adjusting my thinking and my feelings throughout the video. We all have so much to learn from one another... there's no one "right" way; and yet,how wonderful to examine a completely different view point to help adjust our own thinking. There's soooo much to learn.
The video was definitely good food for thought. The information presented wasn’t entirely new to me. However, each time I hear this I struggle with which “side” to favor. I admire the ambition and drive of the students from India and China who were previewed in the video. Yet, I’m not entirely sure that those students are happy and doing all that they enjoy. It’s all about balance……. What that balance is, I’m not sure……I think it’s different for each individual. I would like to see students in the US hold a greater emphasizes on the importance of schooling.
I am amazed at the amount of time spent on studying in China and India. I knew it was more than the US, but the numbers shown were greater than I expected. It also made me reflect on the amount of extra-curricular activities we have in the US and the time given to them. It makes me think of the amount of activities I have my own children in and how they have know idea how others live outside of their own little box. Good stuff to reflect on within the classroom and within my own home. Thanks for the time to watch.
I found myself having mixed feelings during this video. I was disappointed in the American students casual attitude towards their education. However, I also see the positive in exposing our children to many activities and allowing them to "pave their own way". (Sarah)
While most of us "know" a lot of this information (statistically - and even some of those were surprising), it really makes it more powerful viewing it in this context. While I do think the United States needs to re-evaluate and re-vamp it's educational system, there also needs to be a shift in attitudes from both parents and students(without it, it wouldn't be truly effective). I also believe that "copying" another country's system is not the answer. As not only an educator, but also a parent, I'm thinking there needs to be a middle ground (between what we are currently doing to prepare our students and what India or China are doing). This is a thought provoking video that educators and parents alike should view.
I think John said it perfectly! Although, I would add--daring to be great also means being willing to make mistakes. Are students willing to try something new if it means they might not get it right?
I agree with John. Our parents and grandparents used education as a tool to flee from poverty and "better themselves". Many of our students are already living a life filled with material possessions and are looking for meaningful, fulfilling professions.
I think it is pretty obvious that in many countries "high school" is more demanding than in the U.S.
I also know that high school here serves a much broader population of students. In order to attend a college prep or academic "high school" in many countries, you have to be accepted or get in by your grades or performance. There are a number of alternatives for those who don't pursue the academic route, with emphases on different trades, etc. Students in these academic "high schools" are obviously more focused and driven. I wonder about the mental health of the students who are pushed to succeed and not let their families down.
The video was really focused on Math and Engineering, and I was curious about other fields of study and how Americans compare in those fields.
I think that at the high school level, the U.S. is definitely behind, but I think that at the college level, especially at the Masters and Doctoral level, that the U.S. is not so behind. Many foreign students attend U.S. colleges for advanced degrees.
I thought this was interesting - the American kids were actually less "vapid" than I thought they might come across and the kids from Indian and China still sounded like real kids with personalities even though it was obvious that their priorities were different from the US students. This made the presentation easier to watch than I thought it would be.
I agree with the points made in the video. The US is losing ground on the world stage and the future looks like more of the same at an ever increasing rate. I'm not sure what it will take to cause forces to align and a change to happen in our education system. The larger problem might be attitudes and feelings about traditions currently in place.
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